Trust Planning – Estate Planning Attorney Blog http://www.estateplanningattorney-blog.com Published by Denver Estate Planning Lawyers — Deemer Law Group, P.C. Mon, 13 Jul 2015 17:21:34 +0000 en-US hourly 1 Asset Protection (Part 3) http://www.estateplanningattorney-blog.com/2015/07/06/asset-protection-part-3/ Mon, 06 Jul 2015 16:09:49 +0000 http://www.estateplanningattorney-blog.com/?p=158 In Part 2, we discussed insurance protections for you.  Now we will explore some less common methods for asset protection.

As many (or some) are already familiar, there are revocable living trusts for estate planning.  There are also various types of Irrevocable Trust to meet other special circumstances, such as asset protection.

The Domestic Asset Protection Trust (DAPT) originally started in Alaska in 1997, followed by South Dakota (1983) and is an irrevocable trust established under one of the jurisdictions that allow the settlor of the trust to be a discretionary beneficiary and protect trust assets from the settlor’s creditors.  Usually a DAPT must comply with the following requirements:

(1)  the trust must be irrevocable and spendthrift;

(2) at least one resident trustee must be appointed;

(3) some administration of the trust must be conducted in respective state;

(4) the settlor cannot act as trustee.

One of the common rules is that there is a statute of limitations period determining how long the assets need to be in the trust before any new creditor issues arise, however existing creditors typically would be able to access the funds, due to a tolling of the statute of limitations.  Many states do have exceptions as well, such as divorcing spouses and child support requirements.

As an example, the current (2015) state rankings of DAPTs can be found here, and it lists the top five as Nevada, South Dakota, Tennessee, Ohio, Delaware, and Missouri (yes, I know that is six…Delaware and Missouri were tied, besides, we are licensed in Missouri, so I couldn’t leave that out!).

These rankings change as laws change, for example, in 2013, Oshins named Ohio as the top place for DAPTs (prior to that, Ohio was unranked).  This was primarily driven because they created the shortest statute of limitations for DAPTs at 18-months, with most of the other states having either two or four years, with the only two states that have a lower statute of limitations (Utah in 12th place and Virginia in 13th place) both having state income taxes, resulting in a far lower ranking.  If I had to guess, if Utah removed the income tax for the DAPT, they would probably move to first place.  As you can see, there are differences in income tax, statute of limitations, exception creditors, and preexisting torts exceptions.

One reason states are making asset protection a larger priority is because they want the assets to stay in (or come to) their states.  They do not want to lose the assets.  One example is that after about a decade, South Dakota had amassed about $75 billion in out-of-state trust assets.   This is important for business, jobs, and tax revenue.  As of April 2013, Delaware institutions brought in 90% of the fiduciary fees, generating $600 million to $1.1 billion in fees for Delaware.

One other type of trust that is becoming more popular after a the Supreme Court ruling on June 12, 2014, in Clark v. Rameker is a retirement trust.  The Supreme Court determined that assets in an inherited IRA (Individual Retirement Account) is not protected from creditors.  To provide the protection against creditors, the retirement trust has grown considerably since then.  Even if you do not consider yourself affluent or wealthy, you should at least discuss a retirement trust with your attorney to determine if it is something you would be interested in.

As you can see, there are numerous methods to protect your assets.  For most people, it is having proper insurance and possibly a retirement trust.  For affluent and wealthy people, it may be a good idea to consider other avenues of protection beyond liability insurance.

 

 

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Asset Protection (Part 2) http://www.estateplanningattorney-blog.com/2015/06/29/asset-protection-part-2/ Mon, 29 Jun 2015 13:58:01 +0000 http://www.estateplanningattorney-blog.com/?p=154 In Part 1, we started discussing automobile insurance to protect your assets from an accident vehicles.  Now we will flip the coin and explore how higher limits on your automobile policy also provides better protection for you and your passengers.

What happens if you or your passengers are seriously injured by someone that has very low insurance limits or no insurance?  Your Bodily Injury coverage does not protect you.  If that is the only coverage you have, you will need to deal only with the other persons insurance company and what they are willing to pay (I’d suggest speaking to a personal injury attorney very quickly, I actually recommend it for any injury accident).

The first coverage that may provide protections for you and your passengers is Medical Payments coverage.  This is an optional coverage that many people do not purchase.  This protects you and your passengers regardless of fault for up to your Medical Payments policy limits (typically they range from $1,000 to $100,000 per person).  There is no need to go through health insurance and your automobile insurance pays for the medical expenses.  This means that if you (or your passengers) are injured in an accident, you can deal with your own insurance company and they will take care of the medical expenses (up to your policy limits).  If the Medical Payments limits are high enough to cover all of the medical expenses and the other (at-fault) party does not have insurance, then your UMBI (Uninsured Motorist Bodily Injury) coverage still has the full limits to provide for pain, suffering, lost wages, etc.

What many people do not realize is that they cannot protect themselves for more than they protect other drivers from their own negligence.  This means that if you only have $25,000 in Bodily Injury Coverage, your Uninsured Motorist Coverage is limited to only $25,000.  However, if you have $1,000,000 in Bodily Injury Coverage, you are able to also have $1,000,000 in Uninsured Motorist Bodily Injury Coverage, protecting you and your passengers up to those limits for someone else being negligent.  This provides coverage for medical bills, pain & suffering, lost wages, and essential services just as if the other person had $1,000,000 in Bodily Injury coverage.

The third type of insurance is disability insurance.  A lifetime disability caused by an accident or illness can quickly and easily drain savings and require you to empty bank accounts or sell homes.  Does the disability require home care?  Are you no longer able to work?  Do you have new and continuing medical expenses?

The last type of insurance is life insurance.  If you have a family that is dependent on you for support, then you should probably have a life insurance policy.  Keep in mind that even if something were to happen to you, their needs continue.  Living expenses, education expenses, medical expenses all continue and a properly established life insurance policy can take care of your loved ones.  The life insurance can pay to your spouse/children, or you can have a trust established that can hold and manage the funds as needed to protect the long-term needs for your loved ones.

In Part 3, we will explore protecting wealth.

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Power of Attorney / Certificate of Trust http://www.estateplanningattorney-blog.com/2015/05/31/power-of-attorney-certificate-of-trust/ Sun, 31 May 2015 23:01:51 +0000 http://www.estateplanningattorney-blog.com/?p=149 After you establish an estate plan, you will likely have two documents that others may need to rely on.  The first is the Power of Attorney and the second is a Certificate of Trust.  Both of these documents need to be relied upon by others.

Often times, it is ignorance or laziness that causes problems with people accepting documents.  We recently had two clients which had issues with a large bank accepting their documents.

Certificate of Trust

The first client had a revocable living trust and took the certificate of trust into the bank to have their accounts added to the trust.  In California (as an example), this issue is actually addressed by statute, which is often included in the Certificate of Trust.

RELIANCE ON THIS CERTIFICATION

This certification is made under California Probate Code Section 18100.5 and California Commercial Code Section 8402(a)(2)-(5) and is signed by all the currently acting Trustees. Any transaction entered into by a person acting in reliance on this certification is enforceable against the trust assets.

PROBATE CODE SECTION 18100.5(h) PROVIDES THAT ANY PERSON WHO REFUSES TO ACCEPT THIS CERTIFICATION IN LIEU OF THE ORIGINAL TRUST DOCUMENT WILL BE LIABLE FOR DAMAGES, INCLUDING ATTORNEYS’ FEES, INCURRED AS A RESULT OF THAT REFUSAL, IF THE COURT DETERMINES THAT THE PERSON ACTED IN BAD FAITH IN REQUESTING THE TRUST DOCUMENT.

The resolution was simply informing the personal banker of the consequences.

Power of Attorney

The second issue occurred when our client needed to be added as power of attorney to an additional account at a bank.  Our client visited (a different branch) and they did not want to accept the power of attorney.  What made this more frustrating for the client was that the bank had accepted the power of attorney before, but would not accept it this time without speaking to the clients mother.  While this sounds like a simple issue, the clients mother is unable to answer the identifying information for the bank to satisfy the bank that they were really speaking with our clients mother.

Bank employees are not typically familiar with legal documents and many bank policies encourage using their own internal forms to ensure that it provides the power over financial accounts, because they know their employees are not familiar enough with documents to ensure their validity.  Banks also typically have a legal department that can review other drafted legal documents to ensure compliance.

The client has a valid power of attorney for her elderly mother.  The bank had actually already accepted the power of attorney before to add our client to her mothers bank accounts, but that was added in the presence of our clients mother, so the bank now refused to accept the power of attorney.

In the conversation with our client, we reminded her that the purpose of the power of attorney is to allow you to legally assist her mother, because she is incapacitated.  It is a legal document that is properly drafted and she has the legal authority to act on her mothers behalf.

Once the client returned to the bank, and pushed back a little, explaining the important facts (valid power of attorney, they have already accepted it, and the clients mother is unable to properly identify herself), the banker submitted the power of attorney to the legal department and the issue was resolved.

Conclusion

You are likely far more familiar with your documents than the bankers that you take them to (especially if you went to an attorney to have them drafted).  Bankers are primarily trained how to sell and how to open accounts, not how to review legal documents.

When you are certain that the documents are actually correct, educating the banker and (politely) encouraging the banker to look for solutions rather than simply saying “no” can often resolve the problems.  If all else fails, try to escalate the issue to management, and they may be more familiar or see if your attorney can help resolve the issues.

 

 

 

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Do I need to update my estate plan if I am moving? http://www.estateplanningattorney-blog.com/2015/01/22/need-update-estate-plan-moving/ Thu, 22 Jan 2015 19:25:22 +0000 http://www.estateplanningattorney-blog.com/?p=130 There are many things that can cause someone to move, and depending to the reasons, the method, or other decisions, it may be appropriate to update a trust or a will.  Some of the reasons for moving, may be a reason to review, for example, is the move because of a change in marital status (marriage/divorce)?  Is the move because you’re having another baby and need more room?  Is the move because you were just hired in a fantastic new job?  Were you just recruited to play on a professional sports team?  Did you just win the lotto? 

What to do after you close escrow?

When you buy a new home, there are many things that change.  You may be moving down the street, or to a new state, but there are things you should consider any time you move, let alone when you buy a new home.

Probate

In many (if not all) states, probate fees are determined with consideration of your assets, while ignoring your liabilities.  This means that if you buy a $1,000,000 home, with a $900,000 mortgage, the probate fees are determined by the $1,000,000 value and ignores the mortgage.

Location of Residence

Different cities, counties, and states have different laws.  One example, for Colorado, Denver County has more restrictions on firearms than other counties.  If you moved from another city to Denver (or even just during a visit), with an assault rifle, you’d likely be in violation of the law and subject to criminal prosecution.  There are other more subtle laws to consider, do you need to clear snow off the sidewalk?  What are the trash days?  Who are the utility providers?

One very important change is if you move between states, where estate planning laws can differ greatly.  Any time you relocate to a new state, you should pay careful attention to your will or trust and ensure it is updated appropriately.

Change in Assets

While relocating is changing location, it is often a change in assets.  You often sell a house or buy a house, or both.  Any time you have a significant change in your assets, you should evaluate and likely amend your estate plan (trust or will).

Estate Plan Needs

While many of the examples of reasons to move give independent reasons on why you should review your estate plan, because they are changes your family dynamic or there is a change to your assets that should be considered, it is important to look at the big picture.  Not all of these reviews will result in needing to change your estate plan, it is simply a good time to review it.  For example:

If you just bought a home…

(1) You have a revocable living trust;

(2) You are staying in the same state;

(3) You are married with no children;

(4) Everything goes to your the spouse if you pass away

(5) There is not a significant enough change in assets to affect any inheritance taxes for where you now live (if there are any); AND

(6) You still want all of those facts to remain the same

If all of the above are true, then the odds are that there is no need to update a trust, just make sure the house you bought is titled in the name of the trust.  If the house is not titled in the name of the trust, you should probably file a deed with the county to transfer the house into the trust.

In general, you should review your estate plan on a regular basis or when there are significant changes to your assets or family dynamic.

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How much does it cost for Probate? http://www.estateplanningattorney-blog.com/2015/01/14/much-cost-probate/ Wed, 14 Jan 2015 23:16:13 +0000 http://www.estateplanningattorney-blog.com/?p=128 Probate Expenses

Proper estate planning can help save time, save money, and protect the privacy of an estate.  Probate expenses can have a wide variance depending on where you live and how much you have in assets.  Some states, like California, have specific fee schedules based on the assets you own upon your death.  Other states, have subjective fees where the probate statutes simply state that the fees must be reasonable.

These fees for Probate also are based only on assets and ignore any debts, which this means if you own a $500,000 home, and owe $450,000, the probate fees are based only on the $500,000 value of the home, ignoring the mortgage.  One thing to keep in mind while reading this is that a properly executed trust can avoid Probate entirely, negating these fees.

California

California Probate Code Section 10800 and 10810 provide that the attorney and the executor of an estate may each charge the following:

The first $100,000:  4% each [for a total of 8%]

The next $100,000:  3% each [for a total of 6%]

The next $800,000:  2% each [for a total of 4%]

The next $9,000,000:  1% each [for a total of 2%]

The next $15,000,000:  1/2% each [for a total of 1%]

Missouri

The Missouri State Bar offers a PDF about Probate that is very informative.  Please keep in mind that this document only applies to Missouri.  Within this published PDF document, it states:

Missouri statutes provide for a minimum fee schedule for each. Compensation in excess of this scheduled fee may be paid upon an order of the court or upon consent of all distributees. The minimum scheduled fees are based upon a percentage of the amount of money and personal property administered in the estate. This percent- age is based upon a graduated scale as follows: 5 percent of the first $5,000; 4 percent of the next $20,000; 3 percent of the next $75,000; 2.75 percent of the next $300,000; 2.5 percent of the next $600,000; and 2 percent of everything more than $1 million. For example, an estate in which $110,000 is administered would generate a personal representative or minimum attorney fee of $3,575 each (6.5 percent of estate for both fees).

As with California, these percentage fees are for each, so you would double the fees listed (10% for the first $5,000; 8% for the next $20,000, etc.).

Wyoming

Wyoming Probate Code 2-7-803 provides the following:

(a)If the court determines that by reason of unusual circumstances the fee computed hereafter is not equitable after considering the time and effort reasonably expended and the responsibility with which the personal representative was charged, the court may allow such additional fee as the court determines proper. The court shall allow the personal representative fees for ordinary services rendered to the estate unless the personal representative files a written waiver as to a part or all thereof. The fees shall be computed on the basis of the amount of the decedent’s probate estate accounted for as follows:

(i)For the first one thousand dollars ($1,000.00) of the basis, ten percent (10%);

(ii)For all sums over one thousand dollars ($1,000.00) but not exceeding five
thousand dollars ($5,000.00) of the basis, five percent (5%);

(iii)For all sums over five thousand dollars ($5,000.00) but not exceeding twenty
thousand dollars ($20,000.00) of the basis, three percent (3%);

(iv)For all sums over twenty thousand dollars ($20,000.00) of the basis, two percent
(2%).

(b)In addition, further fees as are just and reasonable may be allowed by the court to the personal representative for extraordinary expenses or services actually incurred or rendered by the personal representative and necessary to the proper administration and distribution of the estate. Extraordinary services shall include but not be limited to services rendered by the personal representative relative to any tax matters and services rendered by the personal representative in connection with any litigation to which the decedent or the estate is a party.

Colorado

As noted above, not all states have set fee structures.  As an example, the Colorado State Bar offers this link about Probate.  Please keep in mind that this website only applies to Colorado.  Within this published website it states:

An attorney’s expertise is usually necessary in identifying what type of probate is necessary, and the scope of the attorney’s involvement will depend on the complexity of the estate. Even the most well-planned estates and well-written wills have costs associated with administration, including court fees, attorney fees, and the payment of the decedent’s final expenses and legitimate debts. Most attorneys charge an hourly fee, and the rate depends on several factors, such as the attorney’s expertise and experience, the novelty and difficulty of the case, the results obtained, and costs involved.

Most people do not understand the time and labor it takes to go through probate.  There is a good article on avvo.com that states the average probate fees in Colorado are between 3% and 4%.  This can be far cheaper than some states, like California, however it is still fees that can easily be avoided with a properly established estate plan.

Conclusion

Proper estate planning can save time, money, and provide additional privacy.  For more information on Estate Planning, please see this prior blog.

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Should I hire an attorney? (Part 2) http://www.estateplanningattorney-blog.com/2014/12/10/hire-attorney-part-2/ Wed, 10 Dec 2014 21:48:21 +0000 http://www.estateplanningattorney-blog.com/?p=65 In Part 1, we started exploring do-it-yourself (DIY) legal products compared to hiring an attorney.  DIY legal products can be appealing because they can be far less expensive than hiring an attorney, but it may not meet your needs.

In a comparison of a will provided by LegalZoom and a will from an attorney, I think most people would agree that a more educated and legally proficient person may be able to obtain a better end-result with DIY product than a less educated and less-proficient person.  In exploring this theory, a Minnesota attorney named Gregory Luce decided to compare LegalZoom with a will drafted by an attorney. The article about his experience can be found here.

There are two things that caught my attention with the article, the first is that Gregory Luce was not trying to get more estate planning business, he was not an estate planning attorney, he is the Practice Development Director for the Minnesota State Bar.  The endeavor was for educational purposes, to do a real comparison.  In contrast, I practice in transactional work (non-litigation) where DIY companies claim to provide high quality comparable products.  I have seen first-hand the differences in the products and I do not like seeing people make mistakes without fully understanding the consequences of a DIY transaction.  The second thing that caught my attention was some of the items pointed out, such as “80 percent of the people who fill in blank forms to create legal documents do so incorrectly” and it did not address specific protections for his child from his previous marriage, possibly disinheriting his eldest son.

Similar to Mr. Luce’s experience, I decided to explore how LegalZoom worked.  Although I didn’t purchase anything from LegalZoom, I entered information to open my own law firm (for Professional Services), including the states we will be doing business on LegalZoom.

  • LLC? C Corp.? S Corp.?  Confused about your options?  Answer a few simple questions and find out which one may be right for you.  — I selected “Help Me Decide”
  • Then I was asked “Where do you plan to run your business?” — I selected From an office or location separate from my home (and did not select: From my home or home office)
  • In what state is your business officially located?  — I selected Wyoming
  • Will your business be outside of Wyoming? — I selected Yes
  • Which of the following describes the nature of your business? — I selected “My employees or I will physically conduct work outside of Wyoming (and did not select: My business will ship goods to customers outside Wyoming)
  • Which states outside of Wyoming will your business operate?  — I selected California, Colorado, Montana, North Dakota, Nebraska, Missouri, Washington DC, Maryland, and Virginia
  • What is your primary business activity? — I selected Professional Services
  • Will your business have other owners besides yourself? — I selected Yes
  • How do you intend to finance this business? — I selected my own money
  • Which of the following best describes your goal for the business?  — I selected Grow the business but keep it with original owners or within our families (and did not select Grow the business so it can be publicly traded nor Sell the business)

I chose the answers that I would have chosen in establishing my own firm, with my expectation of where the firm is going to operate in the future, from the options they provided.  The result:  81% of customers in Wyoming chose to form a Limited Liability Company (LLC).  If I change the options to form the entity in California, LegalZoom said 67% of their clients form an LLC and 33% form a Corporation.  These results could make most people think that the Limited Liability Company is the best option.  The problem with this result is that not all states recognize a Professional Limited Liability Company and if my firm were to operate in a state that does not recognize a Professional Limited Liability Company would be a Professional Corporation.  Please also keep in mind, these questions and answers from LegalZoom do not look at other considerations, such as tax, corporate governance, etc.  LegalZoom puts a round peg into a square hole, many times it may fit, but it does not cover the intricacies of life, nor the law.

I think every lawyer (and law student) quickly learns that they are always being asked for (free) legal advice.  Nearly every week I get asked for either “free” advice or “pro bono” advice.  In law school, I often replied with “I am not a lawyer, I am a law student.  I may know enough to think I know the answer, and be completely wrong.”  Now I can’t use that excuse, but I also know to keep to the areas of law that I am familiar and comfortable with, and where I am licensed to practice.

In conclusion, although things can go well with a DIY document, mistakes can be far costlier than even not doing anything and even if it does work, it may not cover the intricacies of what you really want to happen, or what you would have wanted if you knew the option was available.  If you opt to purchase a DIY document, you may want to have it reviewed by a licensed attorney.  Best case, you find out that the document meets all of your needs.  Worst case, you find that your document does not meet your needs, and obtain a properly drafted document by an attorney.

 

 

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Should I hire at attorney? (Part 1) http://www.estateplanningattorney-blog.com/2014/12/03/hire-attorney/ Wed, 03 Dec 2014 21:52:25 +0000 http://www.estateplanningattorney-blog.com/?p=59 Do-it-yourself (DIY) options have become a lot more common in the world of legal services. You can now go on-line to prepare your taxes, write your own estate plan, and open your own business, among numerous other options.

While these DIY options to establish a plan do exist, the question remains of the quality of the plan that these DIY options create.

The first issue, before we even start talking about the differences in the end-result (quality), is to point out that DIY operators, like LegalZoom, are not law firms. One of the first differences is illustrated with the LegalZoom disclaimer from their website  (Emphasis added):

Disclaimer: Communications between you and LegalZoom are protected by our Privacy Policy but not by the attorney-client privilege or as work product. LegalZoom provides access to independent attorneys and self-help services at your specific direction. We are not a law firm or a substitute for an attorney or law firm. We cannot provide any kind of advice, explanation, opinion, or recommendation about possible legal rights, remedies, defenses, options, selection of forms or strategies. Your access to the website is subject to our Terms of Use.

LegalZoom clearly states that they are not attorneys, they cannot provide advice, and that anything you tell them does not have the legal protections of attorney-client privilege or as work product.

In contrast, hiring an attorney provides the legal privacy protections of attorney-client privilege and the legal knowledge that ensures your specific situation is addressed in a manner that you want. They get to know your situation, your concerns, and your dreams so they can address all of that in your estate planning or business formation documents.

The second issue is quality of the product you obtain from the DIY company.  For simple legal needs, a DIY company may provide a document that works, but rarely explores the complexity of the situation.

Example 1:  If you obtained a Revocable Living Trust from a DIY company, do you also have a Pour Over Will?  Do you also have a Healthcare Power of Attorney?  Do you also have a Financial Power of Attorney?  Life is rarely simple.  Most people would think that it is a simple process to fill in the blanks on forms and they would be set.

Example 2:  If you establish a business with a DIY company, did you form the correct entity?  Is a Sole Proprietorship correct? A Limited Liability Company (LLC)?  A C-Corporation?  An S-Corporation?  Do you have the appropriate documents to run the business?  Do you have the appropriate licenses?  Do you need a Registered Agent?  Do you need to file paperwork with any other government agency?  Did you get your Employer Identification Number?

When most people buy a car, they take it for a test drive before they buy the car. When most people buy a house, they examine several houses before they decide to buy the house. Unfortunately, that is not possible for DIY documents and that is why most people need the assistance of a licensed attorney that understands both the law and the impacts that these decisions will have.  Both opening a business and establishing an estate plan can be a fairly simple and straight forward processes to accomplish, but if it is done without the appropriate planning, it can be far costlier in litigation and other expenses.  Most things in life are not simple and straight forward, and trying to make decisions thinking that it is, can be costly.

In Part 2, we will finish exploring DIY compared to attorney products.

 

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Do I need a Trust or a Will? (Part 3) http://www.estateplanningattorney-blog.com/2014/11/26/need-trust-will-part-3/ Thu, 27 Nov 2014 01:12:06 +0000 http://www.estateplanningattorney-blog.com/?p=50 In Part 1, we explored what a Testamentary Will was and the typical costs associated with Probate of the Will. In Part 2, we explored what a Revocable Living Trust was and started exploring the benefits of a Revocable Living Trust.  In Part 3, we will finish exploring the benefits of a Revocable Living Trust and the benefits of a Testamentary Will.

Save Time

Probate takes time and is often dependent on court schedules. As an example, there was one case that we followed in 2012-2013 that had a trust, and had to go through probate because some of the assets were not included with the Revocable Living Trust.  In that case, the probated items took approximately nine additional months to resolve and cost attorney and personal representative fees were an additional $17,000.  I am using this example because it was a very simple estate with one beneficiary (widower), with no disputes, and no delays in the processing of documents.  It is important when you establish your trust; you ensure all of your property is properly included with the trust.

There can also be a great disparity between states for how long probate takes where a few states can process a probate quickly (and relatively cheaply).

Protect Privacy

A Testamentary Will is a public record for anyone to be able to access. A trust is a private document that people can typically only see the portions of the trust that apply to them.  For most people, this will provide potential protections from disputes and help the estate to be processed more efficiently for your loved ones, but for some, the privacy from public scrutiny could also be a benefit.  An excellent article demonstrating public scrutiny will help illustrate potential situations.  Often people do not want to publish their assets, and similarly, they also do not want the assets passed to their heirs to become a public record.

As with the public scrutiny example above, people often do not realize what can be obtained from public record searches.

Benefits of a Will

A will is a simple document that is typically cheaper to establish than a Revocable Living Trust.  It essentially tells the court what a person would like to happen to your property after death.

Conclusion

The differences between a Will and Trust in establishment is typically related to costs and the complexity of documents.  Which is right for you will depend on your specific situation.  There are other methods for avoiding probate of some assets, but in most jurisdictions, certain property types (such as real estate) offer additional complexities that a Trust may be the best or easiest solution to avoid probate.

The bottom line on comparing a Trust compared to a will during your lifetime is that there is a little more paperwork and a little more costs for setting up the Trust compared to the will. Upon death, there may be tremendous differences between a trust and a will saving your beneficiaries a tremendous amount of time, money, and hassle.

Estate Planning 101 – Advice from an Attorney

As an Attorney, I love candid conversations with clients.  I love to educate.  I love to help people understand their options.  I love to help people achieve their goals.  When you speak to any attorney with the objective of potential representation, it is best to be candid about your thoughts, your fears, your concerns, and your dreams.  It is the only way to really understand the situation and these conversations are protected by Attorney-Client Priviledge.

One of the most memorable (and candid) conversations I remember about setting up a trust, the objection to having a trust was “I don’t care what happens, I will be dead.  My children are grown and they can handle it.”  I assumed that the response was for two reasons:  First, people do not enjoy planning for their death; Second, this person did not fully understand what would happen upon their death.  The response was to ask a few questions that informed this person of the consequences of their decision.

Question 1:  I know that one of your children (confidential), do you want this person to have immediate and uncontrolled access to all of the funds of the estate once probate is concluded?

Question 2:  How will the children pay for the bills, the funeral, or any other obligations or needs during the probate period?

Question 3:  Do you realize that going through probate with your current assets would likely result in over $50,000 in fees to the estate that can be avoided?

After these three simple questions, this person decided that it was time to get a trust.

Over the next couple of weeks we explore “Should I hire an attorney?” as comparison of hiring an attorney or using do-it-yourself services, such as LegalZoom and pre-printed forms.

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Do I need a Trust or Will? (Part 2) http://www.estateplanningattorney-blog.com/2014/11/19/need-trust-will-part-2/ Thu, 20 Nov 2014 01:39:03 +0000 http://www.estateplanningattorney-blog.com/?p=41 In Part 1, we explored what a Testamentary Will was and the typical costs associated with Probate of the Will. In Part 2, we will explore what a Revocable Living Trust is and start to explore the benefits of a Revocable Living Trust.

Revocable Living Trust

A Revocable Living Trust is a document that tells the successor trustee (acts similar to the executor or the personal representative in Testamentary Will) what you want to happen with your property after you pass away, and you can amend (change) the Revocable Living Trust at any time in the future.  A revocable living trust can also continue beyond the immediate distribution and can make distributions for ongoing care of children or pets.

One of the most confusing aspects of a trust for most people is that the assets you own would change from being your property, to being the property of the newly created entity (your trust).  The trust would then become the owner of the property, but you would still be able to do anything you did before with the property.  You can buy property to put into the trust. You can sell property from the trust.  You can give property away. Anything you do before a Revocable Living Trust, you can do after the Revocable Living Trust.

To illustrate this, let me use hypothetical clients named John and Jane Doe. If John and Jane Doe had a bank account in their names, the ownership would be listed as:

Primary Owner: John Doe                    Secondary Owner: Jane Doe

Both John and Jane Doe can write checks on the account, make deposits into the account, or even close the account and open additional accounts. Either John or Jane Doe could act independently without the other to do any of these transactions.

After the trust is created, then John and Jane Doe could put the bank account into the trust and the ownership would be listed as:

Primary Owner: The John and Jane Doe Revocable Living Trust Dated November 19, 2014

Trustee: John Doe                    Trustee: Jane Doe

With the trust, both John and Jane Doe can write checks on the accounts, make deposits into the account, or even close the account and open additional accounts. Either John or Jane Doe could act independently without the other to do any of these transactions. There are no differences in what John and Jane could do with the property before or after it was placed in the Revocable Living Trust.

Benefits of a Trust

There are three main reasons people choose to have a Revocable Living Trust over a will. A Trust will typically allow an estate to save money, save time, and protect privacy of the estate plan and assets.

Save Money

While we explored the Probate expenses in Part 1, the Revocable Living Trust avoids most of those expenses by avoiding probate. There are some fees associated with assisting the successor trustee after death, but typically it is far less than the costs associated with a probate.  A Revocable Living Trust will often be far cheaper than a will upon death when considering probate costs in most states.

In Part 3, we will conclude with exploring the benefits of a Revocable Living Trust and the benefits of a Testamentary Will.

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Do I need a Trust or Will? (Part 1)   http://www.estateplanningattorney-blog.com/2014/11/12/need-trust-will-part-1/ Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:05:01 +0000 http://www.estateplanningattorney-blog.com/?p=28 Last Will ImageEstate Plans

One of the first questions we are usually asked is if someone really needs a trust or a will. In answering that, we need to explore what a Will does, how a Trust differs from a Will, and why they are important in an estate plan.

Everyone should have a either a Will or Trust (Estate Plan) because without one, the courts rely on statutes within the state to determine what happens to your estate. Even if there is no individual that you wish to leave your property to, it is often preferred to leave it to charity rather than the possibility of the government taking all or some of your estate.

There are three main reasons people choose to have a Revocable Living Trust over a will. A Trust tends to save money, save time, and protect privacy, although it tends to have a higher upfront cost than a will, it will tend to be cheaper than a will upon death. In this part, I will briefly discuss what a will does and explore the costs to the estate going through probate.

Testamentary Will

A testamentary will is a document that tells the court what you want to happen with your property after you pass away, and you can amend (change) the will at any time in the future.

When someone dies with a will, the estate will be handled through probate (court) and your Executor (or Personal Representative) that you named in your will would represent you in the probate process. Typically the Executor would hire an attorney to help with the probate process. Some states, like Missouri, simply state that fees must be “Just and Reasonable”. Some states, like California, Montana, and Wyoming provide specific fees for the attorney and specific fees for the executor of the estate. These listed states are not the only states, however I am using them as examples to show some various fee structures.

Probate Fees

Probate fees are fees that are charged by the executor (or Personal Representative) and the attorney for managing an estate. These fees are paid for from the estate assets and reduce the inheritance to your named beneficiaries.

The statutory fees for probate do not look at debts or liens, so if you owned a home valued at one million dollars ($1,000,000), and owed eight hundred thousand dollars on the mortgage, the estate fees would be determined based on the one million dollar ($1,000,000) value of the home and ignore the mortgage.

 

In Part 2, we will explore a Revocable Living Trust, and start to explore the benefits of a Revocable Living Trust.

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